BERNARD NOVELL MUSIC BOXES
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Julie Spiteri

A Secol cigarette carousel with a fat barrel 18 note Reuge movement requiring a service and adjustment
Picture
First sight of the movement
Base with movement removed
Movement showing two missing teeth
Lots of oil!
Comb and brake removed
Drive shaft detail
First inspection
The movement has had a 'run'. Two missing teeth and about 50% of the pins bent testify to that.
The governor fixing screws were loose which may have contributed to the issue.
The movement was very oily and the oil quite thick. Definitely not clock oil - probably 3in1 or similar.
The doors on the carousel seem to stick a little, as one is slightly out of alignment. I hope to be able to rectify that later.
One base securing screw had been replaced with a larger diameter and two of the plastic fixing tubes have split. I may need to drill the base and use the other three fixing points The incorrect screw will be replaced.
All the components after cleaning
Main movement polished and reassembled for testing
Day 1
All brass components immersed in clock cleaner overnight and then polished.
All steel and cast components immersed in degreaser in a sonic bath then abraded to remove rust and any remaining dirt.
Blued screws cleaned with a brush.

Day 2
Movement partly reassembled for testing and to aid pin straightening.
With the governor assembly in the correct place and securely screwed down I found that the governor fan vanes would not rotate because they fouled on the spring casing, so I filed the ends down a little to give them clearance. However the cylinder will only rotate about half a turn and then binds. It looks like the drive shaft may be slightly bent, or the bearing is out of alignment. More testing required,

20th May
Julie has found an identical box, with the same tune and a movement in good condition, whilst the case is damaged.
So now the plan is to make one good box out of the two. Can you spot the difference?
Can you spot the difference?
28th May
Second box dismantled and mechanism inspected. Other than dirt and rust, it's perfect.
Dismantled for cleaning and polishing.

30th May
Movement reassembled and running

Videos
The movement runs well, but is a little slow.
The effort of opening and closing the doors slows the movement down a lot and it needs a gentle nudge to close the doors and to reach the end of the tune.
I hope to improve that before I send the box back to Julie.
Site last updated 2nd May 2025


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  • Welcome
    • About
    • History
  • The Collection
    • Cartels >
      • 12/195 Lecoultre Freres Cartel
      • 12/129 NF Fat Cylinder
      • 8/130 Cuendet
      • 8/122 Ducummun-Girod
      • 8/97 Nicole Freres
      • 8/88 Pallard, Vaucher et Fils
      • 8/79 L'Epee Cartel
      • 8/78 Langdorff & Fils
      • 8/77 Bremond Drum & Bells
      • 8/77 Paillard Vaucher HE
      • 6/107 Nicole Freres
      • 6/104 Nicol Freres
      • 6/103 Unknown
      • 6/58 Ami Rivenc
      • 6/41 PVF Bells in sight
      • 4/78 Nicole Freres
      • 4/57 Unknown
      • 4/50 George Baker
      • 3/99 Cartel
    • Tabatiéres >
      • 2/50 JGM Tabatiere
      • 2/55 Tortoiseshell
      • 2/59 Leather Cased Tabatiere
      • 2/52 US Ebony
      • 2/69 Ebony
      • 2/70 Brass / Oak Tabatiére
      • 3 Air Georgian Tabatiere
      • 3/57 Burr Walnut
      • 4/52 American Tabatiere
      • 4/61 Hamburg Tabatiere
      • 4/77 Mandoline Zither
      • 4/82 Fortisimo
      • 6/42 Bremond
      • 6/50 Petites Musique RD
      • 6/51 Petites Musique
      • 12/37 Ullmann
    • Classic
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      • Multiphone Manivelle
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    • Bird Barrel Organ
    • Ceramic
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    • Other Items
  • The Workshop
    • In the Workshop >
      • 12/129 NF Fat Cylinder RD
      • 6/103 Unknown RD
      • 2/82 Chevob RD
      • 6/41 PVF Bells RD
      • 4/78 Nicole Freres RD
      • 2/51 Photo Album Tabatiere RD
      • Cigarette Box Conversions
    • Coming Soon >
      • 8/97 Nicole Freres RD
      • 8/77 Bremond Drum & Bells RD
      • 6/58 Ami Rivenc Cartel
    • How to restore a Music Box >
      • Mechanism Restoration
      • Case Restoration
      • Small mechanism restoration
  • Private Projects
    • 12/195 Lecoultre Freres RD
    • 12/72 Unknown RD
    • 8/130 Cuendet RD
    • 8/122 Ducummun Girod RD
    • 8/88 Paillard, Vaucher et Fils
    • 8/79 L'Epee RD
    • 8/78 Langdorff et Fills RD
    • 6/107 Nicole Freres RD
    • 6/104 Nicol Freres RD
    • 6/57 Cartel RD
    • 6/41 Ami Rivenc Cartel RD
    • 4/57 Unknown RD
    • 4/50 George Baker RD
    • 3/99 Opera Cartel RD
    • 6/50 Tabatiére
    • 3/70 Burr Walnut Tabatiére
    • 3/36 Silver Birch Tabatiére
    • 3/36 Small Oak Tabatiére
    • 3/36 Burl Walnut Tabatiére
    • 2/70 Piano Nécessaire
    • 2/50 Cuendet
    • 2/32 Painted Music Box
    • 2/18 Personalised Mahogany Box
    • 1/37 Personalised Mahogany Box
    • 1/37 Personalised Oak Box
    • 1/18 Carousel
    • Japanese Box
    • Do-terra Box
  • Commissions
    • Commissions & Restorations >
      • Repair Shop >
        • Bagatelle
        • Chequered Table
        • High Chair
        • Jewellery Box
        • Nécessaire
        • Necklace Box
        • Music Box
        • Travel Box
        • Two boxes
        • Writing Slope
    • Completed Commissions >
      • 12/72 Nicole Freres
      • 12/62 Paillard Vaucher
      • 8/77 Unattributed
      • 6/57 Cartel
      • 4/50 Reuge in Tunbridge Ware Music Box
      • 2/22 Trinket Box
      • Walnut Writing Slope
      • Sewing Boxes x 2
      • Tabatiere SG
      • Victorian Writing Slope 2
      • Tunbridge Ballerina Box
      • Pair of small 1/18 Boxes
      • Victorian Sewing Box
      • Victorian Writing Slope
      • Two small boxes
      • Seasons Photo Album
      • Queen Victoria Album
  • Shop
    • Stock >
      • For Sale by Auction >
        • 12/72 Unknown
        • 8/38 Mermod Freres
        • 8/25 Unknown in Oak Box
        • 6/57 Unknown
        • 6/41 Ami Rivenc
    • Sold >
      • 2/55 Photo Album
      • 1/18 Ex Mallorca box
      • 1/18 Georgian Box
      • Japanese Butterfly Box
      • Barrel Organ Manivelle Kit
      • 1/18 Balerina Jewellery Box
      • 2/22 Photo Album Movement
  • Links
    • Glossary of Terms