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4/57 key-wind Cartel serial no. 20567 - maker unknown - circa 1845

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​A small key-wind movement in a plain oak, box with a clear serial number stamped into the brass bedplate and the letter 'J' stamped into the comb. Some experts think this is by Junod, but if it is the serial number suggests it was made around 1885/6. Very late for a key-wound plain box with a solid brass bedplate so very unlikely.
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The original tune sheet.
​Shame someone thought it was a good idea to replace a missing brass pin with sellotape! 

As it was when it arrived. The movement didn't run, but I think that was due to dried up lubricant of the wrong type.
Plain Oak case with all original fittings, including the winding key.
​The instructions taped inside the flap are no longer required.
Plain, solid oak, box
Operating instructions.
Serial no on the bottom
Letter 'J' stamped on the comb

The first image below is not of this movement, but of one very similar that was also up for auction. This one has the letter 'G' stamped on the comb.
An almost identical movement with a 'G' stamped on the comb
Very clear serial number
Steel control rods with brass soldered tops where exposed.

Governor
H Stanley, Dorking, 1969 on governor crane
Stop lever
Spring screw has been replaced
Control rods
Brass caps
Spring motor
Yuk!
Bedplate in solid brass
Picture
Polished cylinder

As usual, there's a lot of cleaning an d polishing to do.
​For a change, no components damaged or missing. Even the dampers are intact.
All the brass parts
All the steel parts
The final parts to fit
Reassembly, lubrication, testing, pin straightening (only 20 or so)
Great wheel with drive pin and snail cam
Part reassembled
Governor inside view
Governor end
Governor running nicely
Spring motor & Geneva Stop
Spring motor ratchet
Cylinder in place
Finished pin straightening

Case cleaned and waxed after filling a few woodworm holes.
Comb fitted
Fitted into the case
Complete

Finished box.
See main page for tune information.
Front
Back
With lit & Tune Sheet
Close up
Although running OK, it's not perfect. The mainspring is too thick or too short and can't be fully wound, so it won't play a full set of just four tunes. It's been to The Music Box Restorer for a replacement spring, dampers and final adjustment.
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  • Welcome
    • About
    • History >
      • Glossary of Terms
      • Styles and Types
  • The Collection
    • Cartels >
      • 12/195 Lecoultre Freres Cartel
      • 12/129 NF Fat Cylinder
      • 8/131 Nicole Freres
      • 8/130 Cuendet
      • 8/122 Ducommun-Girod
      • 8/97 Nicole Freres
      • 8/78 Langdorff & Fils
      • 8/77 Bremond Drum & Bells
      • 8/77 Paillard Vaucher HE
      • 6/107 Nicole Freres
      • 6/104 Nicol Freres
      • 6/103 Unknown
      • 4/78 Nicole Freres??
      • 4/57 Unknown
      • 4/50 George Baker
      • 3/99 Cartel
      • 2/82 Rzebitschek
    • Petite Musique's >
      • 6/51 Petites Musique
      • 6/50 Petites Musique
      • 6/50 Paillard PM
      • 6/42 Bremond
      • 4/82 Chevob Fortissimo
      • 4/77 Mandoline Zither
      • 4/75 PVF Mandoline PM
      • 4/72 Fortissimo PM
      • 4/52 American PM
      • 3/70 Burr Walnut PM
    • Tabatiéres >
      • 12/37 Ullmann
      • 4/61 Hamburg Tabatiere
      • 3/57 Burr Walnut
      • 3/70 Composition Tabatiere
      • 2/70 H Lecoultre
      • 2/70 Brass / Oak Tabatiére
      • 2/69 Sectional Tin Box
      • 2/69 Ebony
      • 2/69 Ducummun Girod
      • 4/62 Geneva Tab
      • 2/59 Leather Cased Tabatiere
      • 2/55 Tortoiseshell
      • 2/52 US Ebony
    • Classic
    • Manivelles >
      • Multiphone Manivelle
    • Disc Players >
      • Symphonion Brevete
    • Ceramic
    • Paperweights
    • Novelties
    • Non Musical Boxes
    • Other Items >
      • Wooden Games
      • Geneva Wheel
  • The Workshop
    • In the Workshop >
      • 3/37 LIbby
      • 12/129 NF Fat Cylinder RD
      • 8/131 Fat Cylinder NF RD
      • Bird Barrel Organ
      • 10/69 Bremond
      • 6/72 Lecoultre Freres
      • 6/50 Petites Musique RD
      • 4/72 PVF Fortissimo RD
      • 4/62 River Scene Tab RD
      • 4/60 Maple Diamond
      • 2/70 H Lecoultre Tab RD
      • 2/51 Photo Album Tabatiere RD
    • Coming Soon >
      • 8/97 Nicole Freres RD
      • 8/77 Bremond Drum & Bells RD
      • 4/78 Nicole Freres RD
    • How to restore a Music Box >
      • Mechanism Restoration
      • Case Restoration
      • Small mechanism restoration
  • Private Projects
    • 12/195 Lecoultre Freres RD
    • 12/72 Unknown RD
    • 8/130 Cuendet RD
    • 8/122 Ducummun Girod RD
    • 8/88 Paillard, Vaucher et Fils
    • 8/79 L'Epee RD
    • 8/78 Langdorff et Fills RD
    • 6/107 Nicole Freres RD
    • 6/104 Nicol Freres RD
    • 6/103 Unknown RD
    • 6/57 Cartel RD
    • 6/51 Petites Musique RD
    • 6/50 Paillard PM RD
    • 6/41 PVF Bells RD
    • 6/41 Ami Rivenc Cartel RD
    • 4/82 Chevob RD
    • 4/75 Paillard Mandolin RD
    • 4/57 Unknown RD
    • 4/52 American PM RD
    • 4/50 George Baker RD
    • 3/99 Opera Cartel RD
    • 3/36 Silver Birch Tabatiére
    • 3/36 Small Oak Tabatiére
    • 3/36 Burl Walnut Tabatiére
    • 2/82 Rzebitschek RD
    • 2/70 Piano Nécessaire
    • 2/69 Ducummun Girod RD
    • 2/58 Carved Paillard
    • 2/50 Cuendet
    • 2/32 Painted Music Box
    • 2/18 Personalised Mahogany Box
    • 1/37 Personalised Mahogany Box
    • 1/37 Personalised Oak Box
    • 1/18 Carousel
    • Cigarette Box Conversions
    • Do-terra Box
    • Necklace Box
    • Japanese Box
  • Commissions
    • Commissions & Restorations
    • Completed Commissions >
      • 12/72 Nicole Freres
      • 12/62 PVF Cartel RD
      • 12/62 Paillard Vaucher
      • 8/77 Unattributed
      • 6/66 Perrelet RD
      • 6/57 Cartel
      • 4/113 Henriot
      • 4/50 Reuge Tunbridge White
      • 4/50 Reuge Tunbridge Blue
      • 3/36 Reuge
      • 2/61 Palais Royale
      • 2/56 JGM RD
      • 2/22 Trinket Box
      • 2/56 Tabatiere SG
      • 1/29 Cigarette Box
      • 1/18 Chalet & Japanese Box
      • 1/18 Chalet
      • 1/18 Premilex
      • 1/18 Secol Carousel
      • 1/18 Tunbridge Ballerina Box
      • 1/18 White Christmas
      • 1/18 White Japanese
      • Pair of small 1/18 Boxes
      • Queen Victoria Album
      • Seasons Photo Album
      • Two small boxes
    • Repair Shop >
      • African Plant Pot Stand
      • Bagatelle
      • Chequered Table
      • High Chair
      • Jewellery Box
      • Large Writing Slope
      • Polyfon case
      • Sewing Boxes x 2
      • Small workbox
      • Travel Box
      • Victorian Necessaire
      • Victorian Sewing Box
      • Walnut Writing Slope
      • Victorian Writing Slope 2
  • Shop
    • For Sale >
      • 8/88 Pallard, Vaucher et Fils
      • 8/79 L'Epee Cartel
      • 8/38 Mermod Freres
      • 8/25 Unknown in Oak Box
      • 6/58 Ami Rivenc
      • 8/20 Voix Celeste
    • Stock
    • Sold >
      • 12/72 Unknown
      • 6/41 PVF Bells in sight
      • 6/41 Ami Rivenc
      • 2/55 Photo Album
      • 2/50 JGM Tabatiere
      • 2/22 Photo Album Movement
      • 1/18 Ex Mallorca box
      • 1/18 Balerina Jewellery Box
      • 1/18 Georgian Box
      • Japanese Butterfly Box
      • Barrel Organ Manivelle Kit
      • Bakalite Powder Puff
      • Gold Compact
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