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Julie Spiteri

A Secol cigarette carousel with a fat barrel 18 note Reuge movement requiring a service and adjustment
Picture
First sight of the movement
Base with movement removed
Movement showing two missing teeth
Lots of oil!
Comb and brake removed
Drive shaft detail
First inspection
The movement has had a 'run'. Two missing teeth and about 50% of the pins bent testify to that.
The governor fixing screws were loose which may have contributed to the issue.
The movement was very oily and the oil quite thick. Definitely not clock oil - probably 3in1 or similar.
The doors on the carousel seem to stick a little, as one is slightly out of alignment. I hope to be able to rectify that later.
One base securing screw had been replaced with a larger diameter and two of the plastic fixing tubes have split. I may need to drill the base and use the other three fixing points The incorrect screw will be replaced.
All the components after cleaning
Main movement polished and reassembled for testing
Day 1
All brass components immersed in clock cleaner overnight and then polished.
All steel and cast components immersed in degreaser in a sonic bath then abraded to remove rust and any remaining dirt.
Blued screws cleaned with a brush.

Day 2
Movement partly reassembled for testing and to aid pin straightening.
With the governor assembly in the correct place and securely screwed down I found that the governor fan vanes would not rotate because they fouled on the spring casing, so I filed the ends down a little to give them clearance. However the cylinder will only rotate about half a turn and then binds. It looks like the drive shaft may be slightly bent, or the bearing is out of alignment. More testing required,

20th May
Julie has found an identical box, with the same tune and a movement in good condition, whilst the case is damaged.
So now the plan is to make one good box out of the two. Can you spot the difference?
Can you spot the difference?
28th May
Second box dismantled and mechanism inspected. Other than dirt and rust, it's perfect.
Dismantled for cleaning and polishing.

30th May
Movement reassembled and running

Videos
The movement runs well, but is a little slow.
The effort of opening and closing the doors slows the movement down a lot and it needs a gentle nudge to close the doors and to reach the end of the tune.
I hope to improve that before I send the box back to Julie.
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  • Welcome
    • About
    • History
  • The Collection
    • Cartels >
      • 12/195 Lecoultre Freres Cartel
      • 12/129 NF Fat Cylinder
      • 8/130 Cuendet
      • 8/122 Ducommun-Girod
      • 8/97 Nicole Freres
      • 8/78 Langdorff & Fils
      • 8/77 Bremond Drum & Bells
      • 8/77 Paillard Vaucher HE
      • 6/107 Nicole Freres
      • 6/104 Nicol Freres
      • 6/103 Unknown
      • 4/78 Nicole Freres??
      • 4/57 Unknown
      • 4/50 George Baker
      • 3/99 Cartel
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    • Tabatiéres >
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      • 3 Air Composition Tabatiere
      • 2/70 Brass / Oak Tabatiére
      • 2/69 Ebony
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    • In the Workshop >
      • Bird Barrel Organ
      • 12/129 NF Fat Cylinder RD
      • 10/69 Bremond
      • 6/72 Lecoultre Freres
      • 4/82 Chevob RD
      • 4/78 Nicole Freres RD
      • 4/75 Paillard Mandolin RD
      • 4/62 River Scene Tab RD
      • 4/60 Maple Diamond
      • 2/51 Photo Album Tabatiere RD
    • Coming Soon >
      • 8/97 Nicole Freres RD
      • 8/77 Bremond Drum & Bells RD
    • How to restore a Music Box >
      • Mechanism Restoration
      • Case Restoration
      • Small mechanism restoration
  • Private Projects
    • 12/195 Lecoultre Freres RD
    • 12/72 Unknown RD
    • 8/130 Cuendet RD
    • 8/122 Ducummun Girod RD
    • 8/88 Paillard, Vaucher et Fils
    • 8/79 L'Epee RD
    • 8/78 Langdorff et Fills RD
    • 6/107 Nicole Freres RD
    • 6/104 Nicol Freres RD
    • 6/103 Unknown RD
    • 6/57 Cartel RD
    • 6/41 PVF Bells RD
    • 6/41 Ami Rivenc Cartel RD
    • 4/57 Unknown RD
    • 4/50 George Baker RD
    • 3/99 Opera Cartel RD
    • 3/36 Silver Birch Tabatiére
    • 3/36 Small Oak Tabatiére
    • 3/36 Burl Walnut Tabatiére
    • 2/82 Rzebitschek RD
    • 2/70 Piano Nécessaire
    • 2/69 Ducummun Girod RD
    • 2/58 Carved Paillard
    • 2/50 Cuendet
    • 2/32 Painted Music Box
    • 2/18 Personalised Mahogany Box
    • 1/37 Personalised Mahogany Box
    • 1/37 Personalised Oak Box
    • 1/18 Carousel
    • Cigarette Box Conversions
    • Do-terra Box
    • Japanese Box
  • Commissions
    • Commissions & Restorations >
      • 1/18 Chalet
      • Polyfon case
      • 12/62 PVF Cartel RD
      • 2/56 JGM RD
      • 6/66 Perrelet RD
      • Watson
      • Repair Shop >
        • Bagatelle
        • Chequered Table
        • High Chair
        • Jewellery Box
        • Mills
    • Completed Commissions >
      • 12/72 Nicole Freres
      • 12/62 Paillard Vaucher
      • 8/77 Unattributed
      • 6/57 Cartel
      • 4/113 Henriot
      • 4/50 Reuge in Tunbridge Ware Music Box
      • 2/56 Tabatiere SG
      • 2/22 Trinket Box
      • 1/29 Cigarette Box
      • 1/18 Premilex
      • 1/18 Secol Carousel
      • 1/18 Tunbridge Ballerina Box
      • 1/18 White Christmas
      • Pair of small 1/18 Boxes
      • Queen Victoria Album
      • Seasons Photo Album
      • Necklace Box
      • Sewing Boxes x 2
      • Travel Box - Boyd
      • Two small boxes
      • Victorian Sewing Box
      • Victorian Writing Slope 2
      • Victorian Writing Slope
      • Walnut Writing Slope
  • Shop
    • For Sale >
      • 8/88 Pallard, Vaucher et Fils
      • 8/79 L'Epee Cartel
      • 8/38 Mermod Freres
      • 8/25 Unknown in Oak Box
      • 6/58 Ami Rivenc
    • Stock
    • Sold >
      • 12/72 Unknown
      • 6/41 PVF Bells in sight
      • 6/41 Ami Rivenc
      • 2/55 Photo Album
      • 2/22 Photo Album Movement
      • 1/18 Ex Mallorca box
      • 1/18 Balerina Jewellery Box
      • 1/18 Georgian Box
      • Japanese Butterfly Box
      • Barrel Organ Manivelle Kit
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